Today I am feeling smug

Treeman, could you offer a precision package where you resize primer pockets, make flash holes uniform, clean and tumble and trim neck length?

This would be a nice service at a gun store or reloading place.

Thank you for the above, some things to consider yes.

So - back to the original question.
Who would use a annealing service, what would an attractive price be.

If I were to offer R380 per 100 cases including return postage ?

New question, someone said to me yesterday, " not enough people understand proper annealing, not enough people have done the maths, and then not enough people shoot enough to care "

Firstly, with any business venture, ignore the nay-sayers.

Second, the price must be reasonable. A reasonable price of annealing means it comes in at a fraction of the cost of brass replacement. Decide what fraction, and that means you will not have a flat price per case, it's a price per case by caliber. For example, some .223 brass is dirt cheap, you can't charge more for annealing that what it costs to buy used PMP. On the other hand, R10 per case for 500 Jeffery is very reasonable.

That will lead to the third point - demand for the service. If the pricing and service are good, it will create a demand where there may not be.

The courier cost can be a flat rate, people will decide if it's worth the quantity of brass.

Don't under-sell. There is a huge time component, which is not free like when you're reloading for yourself. There is a risk component - if you lose / damage / melt one piece of my lapua BMG brass, we could end up disputing if you have to buy a new box of 20 at R5000 and give me one piece, or if you pay me R250. Make sure there is a clear policy regarding loss / damage / replacement that the customer accepts.

I shoot too little; it wouldn't be feasible.

The braai part. There will be a civil war between the wood guys and the petrol station briquettes guys lol.
At least they can agree that Gas Braai is not a real braai, but it does work lekker for breakfast! ;D

Give me sekelbos or give me death! I'm down to my last 5 bags or so from a stash f a 100 that I bought off a guy that was clearing a cattle farm of the stuff. It's like a fuel and seasoning in one and I need to rustle up some more of the stuff.

I wouldn't pay for annealing. I reload to shoot more within my budget constraint and paying for someone else to do something I can for a lot less money doesn't appeal. In addition to that I would have doubts about the quality and consistency of the process as that's something the results of which most people can't effectively test and it has potential safety implications. I would have doubts about it in much the same way as I do about 'factory reloaded' ammo. For it to be useful it needs to be done to a pretty specific recipe and deviating enough from that can cause problems ranging from irritating to really serious. One case in a batch that's cooked for too long has the potential to do as much mischief as a double charge in a reload. There definitely are people who pay for the service though as there are those who pay to service their bicycles or have their takkies cleaned.

So - back to the original question.
Who would use a annealing service, what would an attractive price be.

If I were to offer R380 per 100 cases including return postage ?

New question, someone said to me yesterday, " not enough people understand proper annealing, not enough people have done the maths, and then not enough people shoot enough to care "

But why the Creedmoor hate ? Being a bit like a jilted lover with sour grapes that the ex didn't work out ? It's just another cartridge. Lots of them as or more anaemic. Please elucidate,, I'm curious.

BMW car, blonde girlfriend, Kershaw knife and Glock pistol ;)

Or the whole Ford vs Toyota gaggery,

Or how one braais...

The braai part. There will be a civil war between the wood guys and the petrol station briquettes guys lol.
At least they can agree that Gas Braai is not a real braai, but it does work lekker for breakfast! ;D

But why the Creedmoor hate ? Being a bit like a jilted lover with sour grapes that the ex didn't work out ? It's just another cartridge. Lots of them as or more anaemic. Please elucidate,, I'm curious.

BMW car, blonde girlfriend, Kershaw knife and Glock pistol ;)

Or the whole Ford vs Toyota gaggery,

Or how one braais...

But why the Creedmoor hate ? Being a bit like a jilted lover with sour grapes that the ex didn't work out ? It's just another cartridge. Lots of them as or more anaemic. Please elucidate,, I'm curious.

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No hate, just a bit like Ray Bans.............................u just know ;D ;D ;D

Nothing wrong. Consider it as one personal one business account.

Makes sense if you get email notifications for the business and don't want them lost in the noise of the regular account.

But why the Creedmoor hate ? Being a bit like a jilted lover with sour grapes that the ex didn't work out ? It's just another cartridge. Lots of them as or more anaemic. Please elucidate,, I'm curious.

Hi guys, just to make something clear - I am on site as Treeman and started this as Wagon Wheel as I intend to try run a bit of a side line business. I wished to keep the two apart for a few reasons, but also do not want to seem sneaky.
I intend to use this for business and Treeman as me myself.

I hope this is not offending to anyone, if so .......................well ! Go by a 6.5 Creedmoor

I am going to try see if this machine can pay for itself. Little sideline business, wonder if it will have any interest shown.

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Nice. Now you need an ELR gun to go with that.

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Friend of mine gave me these to try in my 7.62x39, but they are too long, if you want I can Pudo them to you. They are (apparently) 174 gr 303 bullets. We were at school together at Virgins Paradise 8)

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Always nice to get, I need things to send down range for fire forming the Epps - I will never do a fireform chamber again - its thousands of rands more.
So yes please, will be nice - send bank details for PUDO cost.

So its been a morning of playing with new toy. I have tried anneal and clean, clean then anneal, anneal 7 seconds, anneal 4 seconds. I have annealed high and low on case, I have annealed left hand and right hand, dressed and towel around me (will get dressed now, just wanna see something.)
I have learnt that a wet tumble and then anneal is great,best perhaps, the cases dry so much quicker when annealed after cleaning - the heat kinda bakes them dry while annealing ;D

Friend of mine gave me these to try in my 7.62x39, but they are too long, if you want I can Pudo them to you. They are (apparently) 174 gr 303 bullets. We were at school together at Virgins Paradise 8)

Let us know how it goes...we need pics ;D

One day maybe, still with the gas annealer. Post some pics.

Start with those 303 Epps cases ;)